Anyone claiming that congressman Ryan won the debate, or tied for that matter, really needs to lay off the crack pipe.
Steve Benen says it better than anyone, consistently...
Perhaps the clearest indication of who won and lost came quickly on the heels of the event itself: the Democratic post-debate message was that Joe Biden scored a clear win; the Republican message was that Joe Biden was too mean to Paul Ryan.
Anyone who is honest with themselves could see clearly that Biden won this debate. But it's not about winning so much as getting to the truth. Biden challenged Ryan's lies and drop kicked him on every point. At this point, anyone voting for Romney/Ryan is because you hate the black President more than you love Social Security, Medicare, civil rights, or your fellow Americans.
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